on bringing new york back. i think you're going to see a great local/state/federal effort to rebuild what's been shattered. it's what americans do best, when we put partisanship aside. >> and there's also a difference among the states, david. you know, the civil war sort of united the country as a country. but all the time, people say, oh, i just care about utah, i just care about virginia or something. i don't think people still think like that. there's tremendous national interest in new york, what happened on 9/11, and in this case. >> the governor just said, cuts against the core philosophy of the tea party and the far right republican party. >> so the war is -- you're not in the trenches? >> no, no, i think as we look ahead, you have to be realistic here. and while you and i and the governor believe in these communal values that unite us and that will guide us -- >> federal values. >> he was talking about the federal/state partnership, there are some, and i think paul ryan's in this camp, i'm not sure mitt romney is. >> romney said we ought to defund fema, period. >> privatize this,